Monday, November 19, 2012

FORWARD, MARCH----

If  by some chance you didn't notice, the election is over and we move----"forward". Is everybody happy?  I have a friend who says she is going to "expunge"  the word  "forward" from her vocabulary. Another friend when asked how he felt two days after the election said simply,"Sad".Others just shook their heads in despair, as if much more than the election had been lost.  Of course, these were all folks from the conservative persuasion.  There must have been joy and jubilation elsewhere, even smug satisfaction.  But it wasn't obvious---even Obama had the good sense not to gloat in his acceptance speech. After all, he had not exactly received a standing ovation, or even close to a mandate. The people seemed to have given him their permission to continue, to keep trying till he gets it right, but certainly not their ringing endorsement. The congress remained filled with those who disagree vehemently,boding future gridlock.

 And as Romney, the man who could have been president, and perhaps should have been, given the evidence at hand, walked off the world stage, one could not help but wonder---what had happened here?  This was a man who seemingly had everything going for him---against an encumbent who had very little. The latter, with few exceptions, had only a worried, stressed country who had drifted even further into a recession after he took office, despite his efforts and policies. Nothing seemed to have worked enough to pull us out at a normal rate of recovery. Though there are faint signs, a slight uptick in employment, a sputtering housing re-start, some new manufacturing, but we still seem to be on life support. Nevertheless, a majority of the American people, voted once again for Obama and not for the man who could have given us a fresh start, new hope, and a different vision. But why didn't we take what he had to offer?

Never presume the American mind, much less his/her vote.. The afore mentioned evidence may have been considered, but in the end, what mattered more was their gut instinct based not necessarily on the evidence, but on well, ---that's still up for conjecture and the subject for endless analysis by the pundits and especially the Republicans. But let's give it a try in a moment. Regardless the reasons, this was a major blow for the grand old party---and very possibly reason enough for deep soul searching and a major over haul to their party platforms. But was it really a vote against Romney that caused Obama to win?  Or were there other factors at play here??  First, there was Obama, himself--- not so much the president, but the candidate,  and one who knows how to win-----nobody does it better.

Obama was never one to sit back and allow the election process to take care of itself---he was a campaigning machine, covering mega miles and raising more money than any other Dem candidate. This was his turf,and he determined to keep it. It was also his forte, what he does best---sell the people not on his failures, but on him---the guy they love to love.  He charmed, he entertained, he showed up everywhere where he thought it counted, even snubbing a United Nations meeting, for a larger venue , a TV talk show,"The View."  He played it nice, he played it dirty, and he played it Chicago smart---tough. His strategy was not one of proud accomplishments, but one of attack---the only card left for him to play. And he did it brilliantly, using the latest data technology, to target the moving polls, and somehow turning Romney, the squeaky clean man with no dirty laundry into an unsavory business tycoon, with no heart, no conscience, and no chance against the relentless negative ads. For those of you who think negative ads don't work---observe that they did work very well. David Axelrod, Obama's main campaign manager, should also be given dubious credit for designing a very crafty campaign to deconstruct what was, indeed, a formidable opponent. in Mr. Romney. They took no prisoners, and no heed against those who preached against negativity.This was war, and they intended to win---mission accomplished.
  
Now, let's look at Mitt Romney---he may have been his own worst enemy. Try as he might, he just didn't seem to have the guts for politics---he refused or didn't know how to fight back hard enough, to rebuke the character smearing, the twisted charges leveled against him. Contrary to spin, he  wasn't so much a "flip flopper" as a man who changed with the times and the people he governed. He certainly was not a greedy business destroyer, but a savvy entrepenuer who knew how to rescue businesses, thereby saving many jobs. The nail in the coffin was his remark, taken out of context, about the 47% who he said were not worth going after---he meant that no matter what he did, he would not win their hearts or their vote. He was exactly right---but he did not mean, as spun by the media and Obama, that he had no compassion for them.  His life and past history are testament of a person who cares for  others. He was and is a good and capable man, but this was not his time. nor his country to lead. Perhaps he never was, as the Republican establishment supposedly never fully supported him---word was he was too moderate, not right enough. Three million registered Republicans chose not to vote for him---how bizarre, as though the answer would have been a more right wing candidate. What world are they living in?  More " right" wasn't what they needed. What they needed was more fight, light, and a distress call against what was happening---the country was failing under Obama's leadership, or lack thereof. And let's be honest, what the Republicans also lacked was a more inclusive tone, one that spoke more directly to the Black and Hispanic communities, and to the minorities in general. The Womens' vote may have also been an issue, but was mostly a hyped up last ditch effort by the Obama campaign---many of us women maintain that we are far more interested in larger issues, than free condums  and abortion laws, which are already pretty much set in stone, and not likely to be challenged; and it was somewhat unsettling to be used as a campaign booster. Perhaps like Sesame Street and Big Bird, we should have protested.

And finally there was us, the American people, perhaps so traumatized by our failing economy and concern over the future, that we found ourselves coming a bit undone and not at all sure of who or what we wanted.  We are no longer united with similar values and sense of pride in our country.  We are polarized to the point of paralysis, and our once great confidence is changing to doubt and fear of the future. The election was a tug of war between economic concerns and social issues----and that was at the core of Obama's tactical win. He had built his own army by inducing and encouraging class warfare; and Romney and his campaign could not fight the battle of social issues and responsibility with only a recipe for a healthier economy. Never mind that a healthier economy could have been the one thing, perhaps the only antidote, that could bolster and even save our social safety nets---the people didn't see it that way, at least not enough of them.

Mr. Romney tried his best to tell us that, but he was drowned out by mis-charaterization and ridicule---except for one exceptional night, during the first presidential debate, when we saw two men, one very strong, knowledgeable, in control, sure footed and presidential. Obama, on the other hand, was strangely off balance, cut loose from his teleprompter comfort zone,  out of his depth, not on his game.  Who was the real leader? But we would not see this glimpse of either man again. Obama came back strong, and Romney seemed to lose his mojo and grow weary of the whole impossible thing of  fighting an opponent who had what he would never have--- cool charisma, and the emotionally charged, but still effective weapon of Robin Hood---the blame the rich bomb. Romney needed to get angry and fight back, to contest that the rich are not the problem--but that wasn't in his DNA---he was a fix- it guy, not a warrior.

There is talk that we may have seen the demise of the Republican party---that it is out dated, and that it no longer appeals to the majority of  the country.  We are changing, and it remains to be seen to what---minorities and their needs are growing, the middle class feels weakened, and the wealthy threatened by a rising tide of resentment.  Unless the Republicans and their conservative approach to government can convince enough people that their way of thinking, that is, that smaller government is better for everybody, than big government., that the road to more prosperity is not through more taxation, but through a robust economy where everyone is employed , and that dependence on the nipple of government is ultimately a surrender to finding our own strengths and a sacrifice of our freedoms---if they fail to do that, they may  have, indeed, lost more than an election.

 And one wonders if the  vast majority realizes that---or do they no longer care? Are they less interested in what they can do, and more in what can be done for them?  Are the social issues so touted during the campaign more important  than anything else? It would appear that many thought so, and Obama banked on it. Romney gambled on the promise of jobs, pay checks, self esteem, liberties,  independence, a stronger military and country. Yes, important also are better health care, education opportunities for  more, higher wages, infrastructure, research investment, a brighter future for our children---all good things, and certainly not limited to the bucket lists of liberals. But that was the way it was presented by Obama and crew, and Romney failed to tell it like it is---that it all costs money, and at the moment we're broke, and need to fix our engine first above all else. It is true that we cannot be truly a great nation without compassion and duty to the less fortunate among us. And perhaps we are only as good as our deeds to correct the imbalance of poor vs. rich. But what isn't true, what obliterates better solutions, is that the rich are the culprits ---and that they must be chastised, demonized, and made to feel guilty. We are a mixed bag, even within our parties, of social vs. economic ideals, and neither party owns nor has all the answers---but we are not the enemy of each other.

 That's the big lie, and one the Republicans have to expose and then re-tailor their message . Because, though it was and is the economy," stupid", it's not completely all about the economy. News flash---most all of us care for others and value our social safety nets  ---the difference is that the conservative philosophy believes that the best way to offer and sustain helpful programs  is to have an economy that can actually afford and support them. It is a pragmatic approach, however, and pragmatism doesn't sell as well as emotionalism. Getting that message across is difficult when the other side insists it is the grandmother being pushed off the cliff by the evil conservative who only cares for himself.  It would be funny, if it weren't so patently absurd---would you call your doctor, the one who advises giving you life saving medicine, evil? Or would you, instead, answer the call of those who choose to ignore the warning signs, and continue on the same path? Like I said, negative ads sell. Get used to it---also get used to the fact that money and large contributions  are part of the election process. Not going to change, unless free speech is removed from the campaigns.

Elections, second chances, and dire circumstances sometimes have a cathartic, wake- up effect. May it be so for the leaders of our land to pull  and  work together. May it also be so that we, all of us, begin to understand that we are all in this together. The alternative is staring us in the face----it's the crack up of a once strong, respected, and united America. The election may be over, but the differences are still there---and they threaten to destroy us---or make us better if we can learn to empathize, balance, and reconcile.

Recovery  starts with a  President, a congress and a people who are willing to find common ground, to blend, to weave a fabric strong enough to hold   all of us, and to do more than that---to encourage all of us to fly high, to succeed without punishment, to show others how, and to provide jobs once again.  Can we?? How can we afford not to? Forward, march---but watch your step, pack a parachute, a compass, and a good book--this could take a while.

Keep the faith---the American mind may be unpredictable, but its spirit is resilient, and its will to survive, its inventiveness, not to mention its history, may in the end may be more powerful than our bleak circumstances, and even the politicians and leaders who seek, but cannot/will not find the answers. We have them, they are written deep in our collective souls, and freedom is the password---we are bigger than our problems, stronger than our weaknesses, wiser than our mistakes,  and we must not fail.  Just don't fence us in-----

22 comments:

  1. And the problem with Susan Rice is?

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  2. "Useful idiot" comes to mind--she was simply the chosen talking head for the Sunday talk shows, sent out to deliver the president's message, which was to deflect attention away from the terrorist act that they knew very well it was, and to blame it on a video hardly anybody knew about. Note that Hillary Clinton was and is no where to be seen after an initial similar video blaming comment--she absented herself, leaving Susan Rice to do her dirty work.

    Should Susan Rice then be absolved from any wrong doing? Should she have acted more as a messenger of truth to the American people rather than of the president? Did she know the truth? There were certainly other opinions and reasons to at least doubt the video story. So, why then was she so resolute on her talking point, which was, to emphasize and primarily blame the video as the culprit for the attack, and minimizing the possibility of Al Queda's involvement, which would possibly have hurt Obama's re-election chances? We'll see whether it has hurt her credibility and future chances to serve the public as Sec. of State. Do these people actually serve the public, or do they serve, "at the pleasure of the president", merely mirroring his views? Good question--troubling question. We don't like to be lied to, whether by the prez or his minions---

    Perhaps the good thing to come out of this, is the spotlight now being shone on Ms. Rice's political background and record as a member of the U.N.'s Security Counsel, which seem to exhibit a rather similar to the Libyan situation, lukewarm approach to America's historical leadership in international affairs---i.e. she has evidenced neither strong support of Israel, nor a strong voice against Iran's nuclear program---but then, those are very familiar themes, nothing original, but all too frequently implied by our very own president. So what's the big deal? Plenty, if you don't happen to agree---which is why Ms. Rice's appointment and all other presidential appointments are a really big deal---"Birds of a feather flock together"---remember that saying??

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  3. This may be a good jumping off point to discuss American/Israeli relations. If we simply let Netanyahu have whatever he demands, knowing he's a hawk even by Israeli standards, we do nothing but alientate the entire Middle East with all that implies. Israel is completely dependent on the USA, but most of the time they, not the US, call the shots. Their reaction to the Gaza crisis was overkill to say the least, and who among us even knows what the Gaza was protesting (the embargo of its coastline and a demonstration that the embargo has been ineffective in keeping weapons out their hands)? Why this wholesale partnership with Israel anyway. Were it not for the perceived injustice of that relationship, Iran would not be rattling their swords, and some civilized resolution to the standoff would be possible. The "Peace Process" has been a sham from the beginning. Israel needs the US to consider it the victim, when, in fact, it is the aggressor. Israel needs to keep provoking the Palestinians to violence to keep the money rolling in. The US has made a fetish out of Israel, abandoning reason and pragmatic diplomacy, and that includes President Obama. Israel wants to be considered a sovereign nation when most of the world sees it as a client state of the US, engendering hate against us both in the Middle East and even in Europe. Guilt over the Holocaust, as horrible as it was, gives us no right to support injustice today on behalf of what are mostly Jews imported from outside Israel's borders, having displaced the centuries old residents of Palestine. I don't think we should withdraw our support for Israel, but neither do I believe unqualified assistance is in our best interests or even the best interests of Israel itself. We should be able to take a more disinterested view of the situation than the Israelis themselves, and come to a resolution that's fair to both sides. But I'm on a rant, and it's your blog, so I'll stop here.

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  4. Whoa!! You're right--that was quite a quantum leap from Susan Rice to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and our involvement in same. Also right that it deserves more of a blog format, than comment.

    How do you feel about yesterday's U.N. decision to grant statemanship to Palestine??

    Your views are interesting,but against what has historically been our nation's at least official position that we do, indeed, support Israel and her survival. To become a "disinterested" party at this point is perhaps the direction Obama is inclined, given his actions or lack thereof; but he will buck great resistance from the majority in this country, particulary Jews, who feel quite opposite---particulary given that Hezbollah, a known terrrorist military regime, now wields great influence over Palestine---and they have stated unequivocally that they wish to conquer and destroy Israel.

    Great and exceptional countries, such as ours, must take position, stances on world stages based on both moral compass and self preservation---or allow whatever events to happen as others bend their will to their agendas---Egypt Syria, Libya?? Israel may be our last wall of defense, at least symbolically, against an increasingly anti-American spread of mid eastern growth and power.

    Now---back to Susan Rice---what do you think??

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  5. I agree that blaming the terrorist act in Lybia on an obscure video was embarrassing. Even I, from my "priviledged" vantage point (my lazy boy), knew that was an error. Since it was bound to be found out, however, I don't think it was deliberate. In any case, it pales in comparison to Powell's speech before the UN about the "reality" of WMD in Iraq! Talk about embarrassing...! My point is Susan Rice is no worse than Colin Powell. I wonder what's really behind the vituperation aimed at her. The President was and is the Commander in Chief. Plus, she was not at that point Secretary of State. The buck has to stop at the White House. Personally, I think it would be more shrewd to appoint a male, since the Secretary of State must negotiate with openly misogynist regimes around the world.

    I think the objectives of Hezbollah et. al. are misunderstood. Were Israel to cease it's racist policies and write a new constitution that promoted real democracy, it would not face the hostility it now does. Hezbollah wants to destroy the priviledged status of one ethnic group in Palestine (including the occupied territories!), not institute a replay of the Holocaust. A "symbolic" wall of defence...? Sounds like magical thinking to me. In fact, the policies of Israel throw gasoline on the fire of anti-American bias in the Middle East.

    Re. the vote of the UN on a Palestinian state: Note it was a HUGE landslide. The US position to the contrary flies in the face of overwhelming world opinion. Are we so "exceptional" we can't even listen?

    You're spot on that mine is a minority opinion, even among liberals, in the USA--and especially among Jewish people. But one has to take into consideration the mighty propoganda/intimidation and moral blackmail program Israel has inflicted on this country (and the Jews therein) since WWII. It is absolutely political suicide to resist the Israeli lobby. Note that no one even tries. That's not accidental.

    Moving on: What do you think of the brinksmanship being played out now in DC? Do you believe they'll come to a compromise before the deadline?

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  6. How about some feedback on Spielberg's "Lincoln"?

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  7. Before moving on---your words on Israel are striking. Perhaps because I've visited Israel and her people, I am more sympathetic to their cause and thsir existance---but to call their fight to survive, a "propaganda program of intimidation and moral blackmail" is outrageous, and unfair to a people who during the holocaust were criticized for not fighting back more--they could have used a little more amplified morality ,propaganda, and even blackmail to escape their ultimate fate, which was extinction on a grand scale. They cannot afford to lose this battle, must push back hard,as it is their line in the sand, enough. But to win soes not mean the extinction of Palestine, as is Palestine's stated purpose towards Israel---

    Re "Lincoln", loved it. It was a good lesson in politics and how a very good president seemed really to care for the whole country, not just one segment, and used the art of compromise to the max to get things done---there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we never see or know about. Perhaps if we did, we would feel differently---they should televise the current budget negotiations. It's our money, after all, that's being cut or spent; and it would be interesting to see who is more willing or not, to do what---transparency. Isn't that what Obama promised??

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  8. "Lincoln" is great, isn't it..."the art of compromise..."--Yes! Grover Norquist has made it difficult for many to do so, but I still trust the system will work in the end. ...But it's going to be a nail biter. Time (not much is left) will tell.

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  9. Just one problem here with the "cliff" situation, which I assume you are referring to---there is a difference between compromise, negotiating and being the fool who walks away having gained very little, having been played by someone who has set the bar so high or set the other party up as the fall guy, the one to blame--- the end result is "my way or the highway". The system only works if there is a reasonable starting point---and a president who isn't into playing games. Unfortunately, that isn't what we have here---"brinksmanship", maybe, but not an invitation to compromise.

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  10. I have to agree the Pres has the upper hand this time re. the fiscal cliff, and the Repubs are in a lose/lose situation. But let's not be sore losers. There will be another day.

    I heard an interesting comment today about which I'd appreciate your perspective. It went something like this: Freedom for the conservatives means freedom for coorporations--not people. And coorporations are not demoncratic institutions with the welfare of people their stated purpose (except in advertisements). Why would you want to exchange the limitations government places on you for the weakly regulated and autocratic demands of coorporations? Isn't the freedom we have so prided ourselves in the freedom of people? Are we so naive that we assume giagantic, multinational coorporations have our best interests at heart? With all its flaws, American government is still subject to the people. Its stated purpose is the general welfare. While it is, and always has been, more or less corrupt, isn't it the institution most responsible to the people?

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  11. This sounds familiar---but different. YOu may recall that I posited a similar comparison of big government vs. the free market system some weeks ago. Only the perpective on that was just opposite of your predication--i.e. that while big govt. may pretend to be altruistic, it is in fact flawed by the same human nature traits as those who run big businesses---greed, love of money and power. It is subjective, relative to which party and special interests are in power. The difference is that the market place is dictated and heavily influenced by that which it serves, the consumer, us. It is, one could say, far more objective than an all consuming government who really does not have a customer or competition to keep prices down and quality up. The market place knows only one thing--its revenue depends on satisfied customers who vote with their wallets. Big government on the other hand, doesn't particularly care about happy customers--it does not have to, because they have no competition or accountability. They exist supposedly for "the better good", which sounds so fair and idealistic, when in fact, it ultimately can destroy the better good, and result in mediocrity for all. Big, may I say, liberal, socialistic government, is not exempt from greed, power grabs, a decadence in general--but it wears the coat of charity, "fairness" to cover these things. They also have the added advantage of their man made laws, which results in government not by the people, but by the power of a few dictating to the masses.

    Anyway, who said anything about corporations taking over the country?? Yes, they are a big part of capitalism--but they are subject to many rules and regulations; and ultimately bow to the demands of the market. The comment you heard re how conservatives feel is erroneous and no doubt from the mouth of a liberal who doesn't get it or us---we're not a bunch of white, greedy, rich folks---we just still believe that big government who takes more than its "fair share", presently 40 cents of every dollar, and climbing, is a government who will eventually spend itself to death, and the people will eventually not be able to sustain it----nor will they care to, which will then result in a breakdown of goods, services, ambition, revenue--and a country. Too extreme for you? It's already happening---it's called "the cliff".

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  12. There you go again with that scare word: "socialistic". Can't we have a reasonable, civil conversation?

    Thank goodness coorporations are subject to many rules and regulations--by an ELECTED Congress! Their lobbyists are slick and smart and we have to be on our toes to see to it our representatives hear from us as well as them. Fracking for natural gas is a good example of a case where the free market is not sufficient to protect the common good.

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  13. How can we have a reasonable, civil conversation if we are limited to using only words you approve of?? If the word "socialistic" or "socialism" offends you, then why do you subsribe to the adjectives which define these words? I do not use them to offend you, please know that---but don't know how else to talk about the issues you present. As I've said before, let's call things for what they are, and be honest about what we stand for. I suspect the administration and those whose ideologies bend toward even a form of socialism in this country, hesitate to be completely transparent on the subject, for fear of awaking the public to the direction and strength of their convictions. But words are only one of the things we have to go on to reveal thoughts of others--so they must be used carefully---but one's actions are the true clues to real truth. They must be watched even more carefully. Obama and his actions bear serious scrutiny as the nation inches ever closer to becoming completely transformed to his ideology--damn the consequences.

    Same goes for the market place and corporations--they deserve our scrutiny. But at least they don't have the final word. As stated above, they are accountable to the cold, uncalculating bottom line of the market--profit. If that sinks, because the consumer fails to buy or prosper from their products--they lose their power. Not so with the almighty government--power, once in place, does not easily topple, but feeds on the misfortunes and poverty of others.

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  14. Whoa! Good reasoning! I prefer "welfare state" to socialism, because it refers to democratic forms of government intervention into the "misfortunes and poverty of others" rather than the autocratic communistic regimes we all mutually distain.

    I read an interesting thing the other day: Before Social Security 50% of the elderly lived in poverty. Today it's only 10%. Would you have us revert to 50%?

    And I have a question about a figure you cited a couple posts back. You said Americans pay about 40% of their income in taxes. You want smaller government, but how small? What percentage should we pay in taxes? And where is the money you would tax?

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  15. It's not how much we should pay in taxes, necessarily---but how much spending by the govt. we can afford. The problem lies in the fact that we have already spent too much, not that we don't tax enough. We charged it all , and now the chickens have come home to roost, to quote a phrase. To try and treat the problem with higher taxes on the rich is simply a feel good band aid, but will not solve our out of control spending. Even Obama must know this--but ideologue that he is, he doesn't care.

    How much big govt.? As little as possible, and as much as is necessary to provide the basic functioning needs of a society, without making us all slaves, giving up more and more of our earned money. Welfare state? Pretty foreign term for a country that sought to escape too much authority over the lives of those who wished to do for themselves, and were willing to risk all for the freedom to do so.

    How much to tax? No. How much to spend is the question, before we simply cannot afford ourselves----how would you answer that problem?? Let me help you--the answer will be to eventually tax everyone, not just the rich---Obama knows that too, but must take us down the road slowly like the pied piper, as we listen to his tune of "tax the wealthiest among ua" and sadly watch our country slip away into a welfare state that portends to care for all, but
    is in reality a dream that has never proven to be practical---or anything at all American----

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  16. I'd like to know what you think of the situation in Michigan. It's almost a done deal that Michigan will join the rest of the right to work (for less) states Michigan! ...the very cradle of the labor movement! Surely you can see what that will do to the middle class in the midwest and east? And as the middle class slips further into poverty, where will government revenue come from then? And the entitlement programs you so wish to slash will only grow. Take Walmart, for example: Their wages are so low and the hours employees are permitted to work are so short that many Walmart workers must subsist on food stamps! In other words: The public is subsidizing Walmart! You see how this works? The loss of the American middle class is not just hard luck for individuals. It throws the entire country off balance. If Washington can't get its act together before the fiscal cliff, the middle class will be hit by an average of $2000 in higher taxes, sliding it even further into poverty. All Michigan requires now is the governor's signature. It's a done deal. You've won this battle, but only to your own best interests.

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  17. It's all in how one looks at things, isn't it? Of course, the other side of the argument is that Michigan may have saved itself from the fate of Calif. and New York. I'm sure the gov in Mich. would love to have played Santa Claus and kept on giving and giving---but the well was running dry. Kudos to him and to Mich. for having the wisdom to stand against popular opinion.

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  18. In response to your earlier blog--I do not wish to "slash" anything, nor do I feel I've won any particular battle re the Michigan "right to work" law. I simply feel, as many others do, that to keep on going as we are is to burden future generations, as well as ourselves, with unsustainable debt. We all would like for everybody to do well, to have everything they need for a happy, productive life---but not by taking from others, no matter how noble it may seem. This is a difference in philosophy as we have discussed many times---but one should be careful not to ascribe nobility of character exclusively to one's own way of thinking---for that in itself is not noble, and counter productive to solving our differences.

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  19. Remember the divine right of kings? Well, today your mentors teach the divine right to private property. But just as royalty was a social construct, so is private property. Ownership is nothing other than a social convention. Once we understand this we can begin to look at macro-economics rationally. It has nothing to do with nobility.

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  20. Whoa again---that's pretty rad, as the kids would say, and is certainly one of the aspects of communism. Of course, I reject it out of hand, and you should too. Both of us have lived long enough to know that there is no such thing as absolute equality. At the end of the day, there will always be poor people and those who manage to climb to the top---denying this natural human trait is to impose artificial means of manipulating man's will upon systems, which will eventually topple under its own weight---as did Russia and other governments.

    The concept here is the right of the people to excell or fail--based on hard work / Love it or leave it, it has worked for us for quite a long time, and has been the envy of the world. If we little by little give up our liberties, we will become slaves of a kind---or robots of the state. There are those who believe that a global government take over is already underway, in which the very powerful rulers of such will eventually take all--leaving us to have only what they deam fair and for the good of all. Stick around---you may see your dream come true---your trust in the men/women who would dictate all this "for the better good" amazes me. I prefer to put my trust in a system that is designed to benefit anyone who wishes to work hard enough to improve their lot in life---the system works, with some exceptions, and we are fixing them--- and does not rely on the wisdom of individuals who are usually motivated by politics and power.

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  21. No one I know believes in absolute equality. In every time and place there have been about 15% who need the help of the rest of us.

    What "exceptions" to the US system are we fixing or should be fixed in your opinion?

    There are already plutocrats whose loyalties are with their international good ol' boys wielding the kind of power here which you say you fear. Their "hard work" consists of manipulating markets and buying elections. They are the top 0.01%. Think Michigan.

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